I was lucky enough to get in contact with Tony Wilson’s former partner, Yvette Livesy. Yvette was kind enough to answer a few questions about Madchester.
1) Back in the late 1980s and into the early 1990s, Manchester was known as the music capital of Britain. Why?
“Tony always said the reason why the music scene came out of Manchester was that the kids had the best record collections. There was a generation of kids that collided alongside the musicians at the time such as Tony who came back from Cambridge and ITN, Peter Saville and Ben Kelly coming through the art school, Martin Hannett, etc etc…..a moment in time where people who turned out be world class at what they did provided an infrastructure of creative and then of investment from people and supporting the musicians was key – Strawberry Studios in Stockport, Factory setting up to sign and support local bands and the Hacienda, the countries first super club, to support the music scene that was emerging, Dry Bar – Britain’s first designer bar …. all of these things together focused the attention on Manchester.”
2) How influential was Tony Wilson in the development of the Manchester music scene?
“Tony was first and foremost a journalist but his passion was music. He didn’t hang out with his colleagues from Granada as he saw them as grown ups, but instead hung out in clubs and around the emerging music scene. His setting up of Factory along with his partners gave a vehicle to the scene and the support for local talent that such Joy Division/New Order and the Happy Mondays perhaps would never have had from the major record companies.”
“He was always seen as the mouthpiece for the organization and was always given credit for Factory. It’s lazy journalism that Rob Gretton always used to complain about, but Rob never wanted to talk to the press so that’s how it was seen outwardly to the world. But it was a team effort, in fact, Tony collected people and had a big thing surrounding himself with people more clever and more talented than himself. Tony and I once had a conversation with Peter Saville about how if you had to describe if Tony was like the sun that all the other plans spun around… His personality was one of enthusiasm that was contagious and because he was so eloquent and one of the smartest people I have ever met, his powers of persuasion were amazing.”
3) Were there any other key figures apart from Tony that helped create Madchester?
“Tony didn’t help create Madchester, he helped facilitate what was happening. Of course, Tony just became the ‘rent a mouth’ that represented Manchester at the time in the press. Manchester at the time was unique in that young creatives of the city and the civic part of the city all hung out together. Everybody knew everyone else. The whole of the town used to come out to party. Manchester was a small town where everybody just wanted to be part of something and make things happen. If anyone earned any money out of it at the end then that was great too, but it wasn’t the driving force.”
4) Do you think there will ever be a movement like Madchester again in the city of Manchester?
“Manchester has grown up and quite rightly is evolving dramatically, but the visible investment and energy of the city council and a handful of creatives in town changed the face of Manchester, starting around at that time. There is new energy in the creative sectors and town living is becoming even more popular with a mix of generations moving in to enjoy the now grown up Manchester. If we achieved anything else in the changing face of Manchester, that to me is enough. So who knows what’s next, but the city understands the need to support the creative aspect of the city culture as well as big business.”
5) What made Madchester so special?
“The thing that makes Manchester so special – its people. Not only do we think we are good as anyone else or any other city, we truly believe in our bones we are better. What made Madchester so special was the energy coming out of the city at the time that just spurred on the confidence of the kids and allowed them to think they could do anything if they wanted.”